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iebruin
12-02-2005, 03:36 AM
Kind of interesting.


http://tinyurl.com/d6hhx

ron4sc
12-02-2005, 08:26 AM
Kind of interesting.


http://tinyurl.com/d6hhx

Japanese knives. I get it.

and speaking of japanese.....did you hear where Tokyo Rose went to school?

a traitor to our country tops a double murderer every time.

thanks for playing.

BruinAlum92
12-02-2005, 12:52 PM
Japanese knives. I get it.

and speaking of japanese.....did you hear where Tokyo Rose went to school?

a traitor to our country tops a double murderer every time.

thanks for playing.


Traitor to our country?

I think you've already seen on the other post that Tokyo Rose received a full pardon by the President of the United States - so legally speaking her conviction of treason was completely wiped away as if it never existed. So, maybe she never really did commit treason per say and that her conviction was based on vengeful wartime fevor by a biased jury? Who knows? None of us were alive during that time (except maybe Davis ;)).

Now I know this is a matter of semantics, but I'm afraid your attempt at using her to top OJ fails miserably.

Case in point:

Now, we both know these two characters are not what we would consider the finest examples of our alumni. But let me ask you a question? If you were to walk down any street in America and ask 20 people who they knew more about - Tokyo Rose or OJ - which response would you get?

OJ, while aquitted in criminal court, was still found liable for the murders in civil court. And I don't think there's one person on this earth who thinks he didn't do it. Although I'm sure he's still out himself looking for the real killers in between his golf rounds...

Oz
12-02-2005, 01:21 PM
Well, OJ was found NOT GUILTY and Tokyo Rose was CONVICTED. You just never get a second chance at a first impression ;)

MrBug708
12-02-2005, 01:40 PM
Michael Jackson was let go, but are you going to let your 11 year old boy drink some Jesus Juice with him overnight?

BruinAlum92
12-02-2005, 03:37 PM
You just never get a second chance at a first impression ;)

You do if there's a Presidential Pardon. ;)

And yes, would you let your kids hang with Michael Jackson? He was found NOT GUILTY too!

ron4sc
12-02-2005, 03:40 PM
Although I'm sure he's still out himself looking for the real killers in between his golf rounds...

Hey Mr. Know-it-all, a golf place is the perfect place to look for the killers.

Don't you know a lot of people "slice" on the golf course?

*rim shot*

thank you folks I'm here until Thursday, try the Veil!

but to your point, You have to look at both in context. OJ was a national hero that probably killed two people. Your alum, however, was on the wrong side of this little thing we call World War II.

I don't think the barameter of criminal significance should be a straw poll of 20 random people.

BruinAlum92
12-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Hey Mr. Know-it-all, a golf place is the perfect place to look for the killers.

Don't you know a lot of people "slice" on the golf course?

LOL! I'm usually Captain Hook myself. ;)




but to your point, You have to look at both in context. OJ was a national hero that probably killed two people. Your alum, however, was on the wrong side of this little thing we call World War II.

I don't think the barameter of criminal significance should be a straw poll of 20 random people.


You're right about the barameter of 20 people, but that was just to make a point about which would garner more "name recognition" if you were to just walk down any street in America today.

However, it's not entirely clear that she was willingly "on the wrong side" of WWII. She was stranded there at the beginning of the war, and there's very strong evidence that she was forced to do what she did, which is why she received the Pardon from President Ford. She never gave up her American Citizenship when pressured to do so by Japan, and the testimony of many American POW's from the period backs up her story. Now, why would American soldiers, who fought, died, and suffered horrible conditions in Japanese prison camps, defend her and say that she actually helped to resist the Japanese?

It means she probably was not a traitor after all. She was more likely just a victim of racism and wartime hysteria - just like all of the other Japanese-Americans that were forced into internment camps during the war.

Some of the witnesses who testified against her later admitted they were bribed and coached by the prosecutor. There was missing evidence that never made it to her case, and her jury consisted of all "whites" at a time when there were still very deep national wounds about this war.

http://womenshistory.about.com/library/bio/blbio_toguri_iva.htm

http://www.kensmen.com/tokyorosec.html


Sorry. I know you would like to have something bigger than OJ, but this just isn't it.

Thanks for playing! :)

96sctrojan
12-02-2005, 05:13 PM
A bRuin and a traitor to the US? no surprise... Next we'll find Karl Dorrell is Al Qaeda

MrBug708
12-02-2005, 05:19 PM
http://usera.imagecave.com/Harvey/Terrorism/OJBinLaden.jpg

BruinAlum92
12-02-2005, 05:25 PM
SC96, you should just quit now...you are getting bitch-slapped right and left every time you come over here.

Although because it's someone of your intelligence I'm not surprised...

BruinGrad99
12-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Trojans determined to stop Bush?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview?gameId=253370030

I guess they've finally had it with him assaulting Leinart from the back all the time.

LAL_reborn
12-02-2005, 07:37 PM
a traitor to our country tops a double murderer every time.

Are you freakin kidding me? So you condone murder?

A bRuin and a traitor to the US? no surprise... Next we'll find Karl Dorrell is Al Qaeda

Didn't an Al Qaeda member once attend SUC?

MrBug708
12-02-2005, 07:52 PM
A journalism major who wrote for the daily trojan, but I couldnt find the article to back it up

ron4sc
12-02-2005, 10:48 PM
A bRuin and a traitor to the US? no surprise... Next we'll find Karl Dorrell is Al Qaeda
that reminds me of something funny someone told me. They said " how much do I hate UCLA? If UCLA were playing Al Qaeda in football, I'd be wearing an Osama for Heisman tee shirt!"

ron4sc
12-02-2005, 10:52 PM
a traitor to our country tops a double murderer every time.

Are you freakin kidding me? So you condone murder?


Did the UCLA logic professor quit and take his book with him?

It was judicial comparison of two crimes. Where did you get condoning murder from what I said?????

TAG
07-14-2007, 10:57 PM
Traitor to our country?

I think you've already seen on the other post that Tokyo Rose received a full pardon by the President of the United States - so legally speaking her conviction of treason was completely wiped away as if it never existed. So, maybe she never really did commit treason per say and that her conviction was based on vengeful wartime fevor by a biased jury? Who knows? None of us were alive during that time (except maybe Davis ;)).

Now I know this is a matter of semantics, but I'm afraid your attempt at using her to top OJ fails miserably.

Case in point:

Now, we both know these two characters are not what we would consider the finest examples of our alumni. But let me ask you a question? If you were to walk down any street in America and ask 20 people who they knew more about - Tokyo Rose or OJ - which response would you get?

OJ, while aquitted in criminal court, was still found liable for the murders in civil court. And I don't think there's one person on this earth who thinks he didn't do it. Although I'm sure he's still out himself looking for the real killers in between his golf rounds...

Updated for Scooter Libby!

LAL_reborn
07-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Wasn't Scotter one of the Muppet babies?

LAL_reborn
07-14-2007, 11:35 PM
Wasn't Scooter one of the Muppet babies?

BruinAlum92
07-16-2007, 04:17 PM
Updated for Scooter Libby!

Digging around in the archives again TAG? :)

Yes, I'm sure the update is coming forthwith.

When Bush said that anyone involved with the leak "would be taken care of" he wasn't kidding.

TAG
07-16-2007, 05:49 PM
Digging around in the archives again TAG? :)

Yes, I'm sure the update is coming forthwith.

When Bush said that anyone involved with the leak "would be taken care of" he wasn't kidding.

Well, you gotta preempt those book dealios.